Lack of a good installer: * daily snapshots of d-i install testing already => we can grab a snapshot that works and use that usable: everybody - 2 endorse: 50% for, ~ 5 against, rest silent support: ~ 8 hands for, ~ 3 hands against, rest silent Q: where to report problems mehdi: use release.d.o pseudo-package #debian-next IRC channel Q: why not usable? Lunar: security Q: target users? buxy: new users arne: ubuntu users zack: also developers who need recent libs etc Holger: Debian stable is usable (and I agree, I have family using it that I support, and it has been mostly pleasant) Phil Hands: danger of fragmentation, as rolling will have its own independent release rather than in the path of normal package releases (experimental->unstable->testing->stable)